Understanding the impact of your money archetypes
In this bonus episode my producer Neal (now a client) and I delved into some incredibly insightful discussions about how our personal money archetypes influence our financial perspectives and behaviors.
It's always revealing to see how character traits impact not just our business decisions but our overall mental state.
Neal's journey highlighted a combination of traits that you may well find relatable.
We touched on the tendency of some to over-give, stemming from a deep psychological need to derive self-worth from helping others.
This behavior, while noble, can sometimes wreak havoc on business and personal relationships.
We also explored the tension between saving rigorously and indulging in life's pleasures—a common conflict for many.
Our talk emphasized the importance of unpacking these behaviors, recognizing their origins, and seeking a balance that aligns with our broader life goals.
Lastly, Neal and I dove deep into some ways to manage these complex archetypes.
We discussed setting boundaries, pricing adjustments, and being mindful about how time is allocated to ensure that giving doesn’t become self-sacrificial.
I also offered Neal some tactile steps and recommendations on how to manage his specific traits.
This episode serves as a reminder that understanding one's own archetype can lead to profound positive changes in both business strategies and personal life quality.
If you find this conversation insightful, and you'd like to book in for your own session with me, you can do so at weeniecast.com/strategycall
Timestamped Summary:
00:00 Intro and needing hobbies.
09:13 Wanting to give Dad a car as a gift.
12:03 Balancing generosity and self-preservation in business.
13:40 Frequent, time-consuming situation with unclear returns.
17:23 Accumulating saves, but experiences are valuable investments.
21:45 Romantic and accumulator struggle with money joy.
24:47 Appearance doesn't matter, client service does.
26:04 Katie's Homework.
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Transcript
In this bonus episode, you're gonna hear what
Speaker:a coaching session with me is like. Hi, I'm Katie McManus,
Speaker:business strategist and money mindset coach, and welcome to the
Speaker:Weeniecast. My podcast producer,
Speaker:Neal Veglio, reached out to me and asked me if I would please
Speaker:do a session with him because he was wanting some direction where he should
Speaker:go in his business. I have full permission from him to share
Speaker:this. Dude, you need to have
Speaker:more fun. That's something we need to prioritize. Seriously, is you need
Speaker:to. Sounds really, like, condescending. We need to get a
Speaker:hobby. It's taking up all your time, and you're making x amount of
Speaker:dollars. How are you going to make more money if it's already
Speaker:taking up all your time making that amount of money? I'm with you. So,
Speaker:like, cutting back on the amount of hours you're doing and being
Speaker:intentional about spending time doing things you enjoy and spending time with your parents
Speaker:and, you know, pushing your dog's butthole back in,
Speaker:you know, whatever. Yeah.
Speaker:Whole pushing off the list, that's now ended, so that's good. But, yeah,
Speaker:more time for parents. Definitely. That's definitely one. Yeah. Birdwatch.
Speaker:Like, you know, think of anything that you're slightly interested in
Speaker:and almost make it be kind of fun if you made, like, a bingo card
Speaker:for yourself of, like, things you wanted to try. I like it. It could be
Speaker:bird watching. It could be. I want to do parkour. Watching.
Speaker:Parkour. Parkour. You know, like the jumping. Sign up for a
Speaker:parkour class. Too bloody old. Okay, maybe sign up for, like,
Speaker:a Pilates class before you do parkour because you need to work on your core.
Speaker:Great. I love it. Oh, cool. Do classes. That's actually a good idea.
Speaker:Do classes. Yeah. Gym classes. Going to the gym first would be a
Speaker:good start, wouldn't it? Mm hmm. Yeah. I don't want
Speaker:it to be something that, like, is. Has a purpose. Like, it's supposed to
Speaker:make, like, make you fitter. This, that, the other thing, it's supposed to be something
Speaker:that, like, helps you turn your brain off and that you actually enjoy.
Speaker:Because what happens is our brains get kicked into scarcity mode when we
Speaker:don't let ourselves do that. We get kicked into, like, survival mode when
Speaker:we don't have moments of just pure joy. You just talked about that
Speaker:on an episode recently, actually, and that sort of sunk in. Mm hmm.
Speaker:Okay, I'll work on that. Yeah. You know, the goal here is
Speaker:a life of no regrets. Like, that's it your business and making more money.
Speaker:Like, that's all gonna fold into it. But what good is that going to
Speaker:be if you're setting yourself up to be like, oh, fuck, I should have done
Speaker:more of that. Yeah. I had a client who, one of
Speaker:her big ones when we first started working together in that first year
Speaker:is. She texted me. She's like, so I went down to the pool in my
Speaker:building. She lives in an apartment building. And I put my feet in the pool
Speaker:for like 15 minutes. It was great. I didn't go in the pool. I don't
Speaker:want to go swimming, but I put my feet in the pool. I'm telling you
Speaker:this. But this is not a unique thing. Special. Right. You know?
Speaker:Yeah. You know, everyone struggles with this. Got you. Right?
Speaker:Yeah. And it really does make a difference when you start
Speaker:prioritizing those small moments of joy. Yeah. I think that's the
Speaker:thing I have trouble with, is. I mean, it's nothing new. You've even talked about
Speaker:this on your show. But it's just that guilt feeling, isn't it, of like, I
Speaker:should be working. I should be doing stuff. This is me. What
Speaker:part of you, though, it comes. Back from the days when you had a job
Speaker:and you have to account for all your time and your bosses would look at
Speaker:you and, okay, you got time to talk. Why you talk, you know, and it's.
Speaker:Time to lean, time to clean. Yeah. And it's. It's like you
Speaker:sort of. You in your head, I guess you're kind of thinking, well, I'm the
Speaker:boss now, and I need to watch what my people are doing. But I don't
Speaker:have any people. I've only got me. And I'm looking at me and I'm just
Speaker:looking at LinkedIn. What the hell am I doing? Come on, get editing. You know?
Speaker:And it's. Yeah, it's that sort of mentality. So going to hang out with my
Speaker:mum and dad for a cup of tea seems like a really
Speaker:guilty thing to do when I could be editing something or putting something
Speaker:in canva. It's just. Yeah, it's a really weird, because you'll still get it done,
Speaker:won't you? It's just when you do it, I. Think you and I are pretty
Speaker:decided that you also have ADHD.
Speaker:Like, you don't necessarily need the diagnosis. We know. Here's the thing.
Speaker:When you're in executive dysfunction and you're on LinkedIn thinking, I need to
Speaker:edit, I need to edit, I need to edit. You're actually making the edit. Take
Speaker:a lot longer than it would if you just walked away and did something else
Speaker:and then came back. Okay, when we're in executive dysfunction, it means, like,
Speaker:we don't have enough dopamine to actually do the thing, right? And
Speaker:dopamine, yeah, it comes from getting tasks done, but it also comes from just going
Speaker:and enjoying life. You know, there's this whole. There's this weight loss coach that I
Speaker:followed over ten years ago, and I just. I followed her because I
Speaker:really thought the philosophy she taught was interesting. Like, instead
Speaker:of waiting to lose weight to go and have fun and live life and, like,
Speaker:go to the pool and do all the fun things, she made her clients do
Speaker:the fun things first because oftentimes, like, the reason people
Speaker:overeat is because they need more dopamine or it's like a stress
Speaker:relief. You know, like, they have anxiety and so, like, they want to, like, suppress
Speaker:the feelings with food, right, versus going out and having experiences
Speaker:and having fun. Like, that gives you dopamine and it also lowers your
Speaker:stress levels, right. So at the end of the day, you know, when
Speaker:you would normally reach for snacks, like, you don't really need them because you've had,
Speaker:like, a really full day and, like, you've sorted through emotions as they've come up
Speaker:and you've done all the things for you as a business owner, the way
Speaker:you manage anxiety is to keep working, and that's a coping mechanism.
Speaker:It's not actually a healthy way to deal with the anxiety. You and I both
Speaker:know this. It's kind of like your version of having a glass of wine after
Speaker:a stressful day is just keep working. Just keep working. Because then you can prove
Speaker:to yourself that you've worked as hard as you possibly can. I hate that. You
Speaker:know me. I'm not perfect at
Speaker:this. Like, I struggle with this, too. Believe me, this is what my
Speaker:coaching calls are with my people. It's hard, but also
Speaker:it's incredibly important. And it's almost like those are your non negotiables for the
Speaker:week because the work is going to happen. You're going to do it. It's not
Speaker:like you're in slack off. You and I both know this. Your non
Speaker:negotiable is showing your nervous system
Speaker:that it's safe to go and spend some time away from work
Speaker:and to do so with, like, don't make content out of it. Don't.
Speaker:Don't have it. Be well. This is how I'm going to hit my fitness goals.
Speaker:Also, when your nervous system sees, like, we always have to have a purpose, and
Speaker:we always have to do this. It's a survival mode. So that is your non
Speaker:negotiable. You have to, like, one of my first assignments for you is to
Speaker:go through and schedule those, like, times of joy throughout
Speaker:the week where you spend several hours away from work. Just having several
Speaker:hours. Yeah. Oh, I didn't agree to
Speaker:the several hours, Pop. Yeah. But you know what? You have to do it to
Speaker:show yourself that you're not gonna die and that your business won't fail. Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah. Right. Because otherwise, whatever we build is gonna end up with
Speaker:you working 80 hours a week and burning yourself out. And that's not sustainable. How
Speaker:many hours per day, roughly then, would you say? For right now, let's make
Speaker:it two or three hour sessions per week. Okay. Okay.
Speaker:It doesn't necessarily have to be every single day. Yeah.
Speaker:It's you going to hang out with your parents, and then it's you going off
Speaker:and having, like, a little random adventure for the hell of it. There's also, I
Speaker:don't know if you've ever heard of it, but have you heard of weird walks?
Speaker:Weird walks? No. All right. It's not where you go walk weird. It's like you
Speaker:go for a walk and you try to find, like, one to five
Speaker:weird things. And it could be, oh, this tree looks like it's the person
Speaker:that's, like, you know, holding its hands up to the police. Oh, this
Speaker:is a weird little, like, miniature mural of a goblin on the corner of
Speaker:a building, you know. Oh, that flower pot, like, looks like
Speaker:a pumpkin. Okay, interesting. And it's like. But you hit.
Speaker:It's a great mindfulness trick. And it's also really fun to do with other
Speaker:people. Right. Because you're constantly like, is this weird enough? Does this qualify? Is this
Speaker:weird enough? And it just, like, it makes you really
Speaker:enjoy every single moment you're on it because you're just scanning the world
Speaker:for, like, something that makes you giggle. Yeah, brilliant. You could do that with
Speaker:the dog as well. Is that allowed? Yeah. Yeah. Look at this tree that
Speaker:Katie says looked like being arrested by the police. She's not
Speaker:it. Did
Speaker:you also take the money archetypes test? I did.
Speaker:Okay. So the first two I kind of clocked you as. But the. The
Speaker:third one I'm kind of surprised at. So your
Speaker:nurturer, accumulator and romantic, right? That sounds
Speaker:right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, interesting. When
Speaker:someone says interesting, and then they don't follow up. No, we'll go
Speaker:over it. We'll go over it. It's fascinating. Like, the first two,
Speaker:I had completely clocked. Romantic is, like, the one that's, like,
Speaker:real. Really? All right, so let's talk through your
Speaker:archetypes. Oh. Ooh. What am I gonna say next?
Speaker:You'll have to keep listening to find out. But first, squirrel. Squirrel, squirrel,
Speaker:squirrel.
Speaker:Okay, so, nurturer. Okay, so when you hear nurturer, what comes
Speaker:to mind? So nurturer to me now, hearing it in the aftermath,
Speaker:nurturer to me is someone that wants to get resources together
Speaker:so that you can look after the people you love. Right? That's what
Speaker:it is. Yeah. Yeah. It's really interesting. This came up, actually, at the
Speaker:weekend, so it's my dad's birthday, and he was talking about he wants
Speaker:a new car. And I did that whole thing in my head of, oh, my
Speaker:God. If I'd have been more successful at this point, I would have
Speaker:just taken him to the dealership and bought him a car. He's
Speaker:82, so he's not looking for, like, a nice prestige
Speaker:car. He just wants, like, a Porsche Cayenne, like, used
Speaker:ten year old car. That is something you can be proud of, but cheap
Speaker:to run. Doesn't drive it anyway, but it's just something nice to park on his
Speaker:driveway. And I was like, it made me feel terrible because it's like I can't
Speaker:even go. And at this stage, I can't even go by myself. A particularly
Speaker:nice new car. How am I going to be able to do, you know?
Speaker:Yeah. So I. So nurture is my second one. So we have
Speaker:this in common. Nurturers, we derive our sense
Speaker:of self worth from how much we can give to others. They don't tend to
Speaker:have a lot in savings because they're constantly giving to others. And
Speaker:this can be. They're either supporting people financially,
Speaker:they're letting people live in their house, you know, rent free,
Speaker:whatever, eat their food like they're taking people out to dinner. This is also a
Speaker:romantic thing, but it can also show up in your business where you
Speaker:over give, you provide. And it comes from, like, a fear
Speaker:that it, like, what you have to offer is not going to be enough. And
Speaker:so it's like, oh, well, I have to go above and beyond here, and I
Speaker:have to go above and beyond here, and I have to, like, constantly, like, shove
Speaker:value in your face so you don't run away from me.
Speaker:Right. This happened yesterday.
Speaker:Oh, my God. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, guilty
Speaker:is charged an hour and 45 minutes yesterday with
Speaker:Michelle basically handing over all my knowledge.
Speaker:Yeah, she's lovely. Don't get me wrong. I enjoyed helping her. Yeah. And I actually
Speaker:wouldn't be surprised if she referred you clients also. Right?
Speaker:Yeah. But, you know, like, the amount of things that you
Speaker:do for your clients that are paying you, like. Yeah,
Speaker:absolutely. But, like, you give so much.
Speaker:And the big thing for the nurturer is to realize, like, sometimes when you
Speaker:give too much to your clients, it starts creating, like, an imbalance in
Speaker:exchange, in energy exchange. So your clients will
Speaker:stop. Will start feeling guilty for how much they're taking from you.
Speaker:This is a great example of me correcting the imbalance.
Speaker:Right? Sorry. No, but it's. It's.
Speaker:But it's when. When you notice that
Speaker:that is kind of your. Your alarm.
Speaker:Oh, I need to raise my rates. Not necessarily dial it back, but maybe
Speaker:shift it. So, for instance, how I've done this in my business is
Speaker:I've implemented a lot of, like, group calls so that clients can get
Speaker:that part of me without me having to do it for every single person.
Speaker:Right. Interesting. Yeah. My brave biz lab call that used to be
Speaker:every single fucking week. That is a great example of nurturer
Speaker:behavior, trying to take care of everyone and giving too much away. As we
Speaker:roll out your different offers, as we roll out your coaching,
Speaker:reconfigure your producing package and also your
Speaker:memberships in your franchise. Like, we just have to be very, very conscious of this
Speaker:part, right. Because when the nurturer is not in its power, it
Speaker:wants to give the whole store away to prove how nice you are. You know,
Speaker:how nice and generous and knowledgeable you are. Because it feels like it has to
Speaker:prove itself. Yeah. The nurturer in its power,
Speaker:however, knows that the more money you
Speaker:make and the more you command and the more
Speaker:stable you become, the more your boat kind of
Speaker:rises, that everyone will see that and take that as, like,
Speaker:oh, cool, like, we'll have to rise with him. You can help people by
Speaker:simply setting a boundary and setting an example. Right.
Speaker:Because that allows for them to rise to the occasion as well. Tell me more
Speaker:about setting a boundary and example. What do you mean by that? Like, when
Speaker:people ask for your feedback and your help,
Speaker:you can absolutely give them all your time.
Speaker:And also you can give them a link to
Speaker:buy an hour with you. Right. You know, and, of course, do this
Speaker:with discretion, but there are people out there who genuinely want what
Speaker:you have, and it's going to help them make money. But, you know, it's also
Speaker:generous and kind of you to give 15 minutes and just give them a list,
Speaker:like, oh, cool. You're struggling with this. Like, here. Here are all the things you
Speaker:want to look at. Yeah, that's it. You know, like, that is
Speaker:generous, but like an hour and 40 minutes, that's a long time to give to
Speaker:someone. So with that, that's actually a good example because I have done,
Speaker:and this isn't my first rodeo on that one. You can probably
Speaker:guess. It's kind of more like a weekly occurrence, to be
Speaker:honest. So how would you suggest, then,
Speaker:that kind of situation? Because obviously she had a
Speaker:pad out and she was like, she showed me, like six pages.
Speaker:Six leaves of a four. Yeah, but now you're saying that. I'm
Speaker:realizing actually, you know, an hour and 45 minutes is
Speaker:a lot of my time, that actually, you know, probably never going
Speaker:to see that returned, even if she does refer. Maybe, I don't know. But
Speaker:how do you suggest that I would overcome that then? The
Speaker:sense that it's selfish for you to cut it down. No. The whole,
Speaker:like. So the system of. She's obviously turned up. You've recommended me
Speaker:to her. She knows that I'm going to save her ass on her talk that
Speaker:she's got to do on a podcast she's got to do. I've obviously got
Speaker:all the ways I can help her, which I did then, being mindful
Speaker:that. Okay, so we've now done this for 20 minutes, and I can tell that
Speaker:we're not even touching the surface here. How would you sort of handle that so
Speaker:politely with, like, you know, we sort of sit out for an hour. So it's
Speaker:really how you start the call. You know, it's like, okay, cool. So we only
Speaker:have 20 minutes. What do you need to know? We only have 20 minutes. What
Speaker:do you need to know? What's the purpose here and what are you struggling with?
Speaker:What do you need to put together? Yeah. Right. So it's a very
Speaker:intentional. Exactly, exactly. Right.
Speaker:You're giving 20 minutes that you didn't need to offer. You could have
Speaker:responded in an email and said, oh, well, here are the top five things that
Speaker:podcasters struggle with when it comes to their brand. Right. You know,
Speaker:yeah. I assumed she was ADHD and wouldn't. Want to read it,
Speaker:but you know what? Like, that's the nurturer.
Speaker:I need to make sure this is completely,
Speaker:100% catered to how you read and listen
Speaker:and absorb information. Right, right. That's not your
Speaker:responsibility. Let the content do the heavy lifting. Exactly.
Speaker:Okay. Yeah. No more 1 hour and 40 minutes
Speaker:sessions. And also know that on, on their end. Like,
Speaker:that imbalance happens. Like, oh, my God, he just gave me so much
Speaker:time. You know, there's, like, this guilt. There's this absolute
Speaker:guilt. Now, your accumulator,
Speaker:the accumulator is, like, of the eight archetypes, you have
Speaker:it paired with two not great spender or savers.
Speaker:So the accumulator is really well known for deriving
Speaker:a lot of joy and security from seeing their bank account growing.
Speaker:Right. The accumulator, however, has a great deal of
Speaker:fear around risk. The accumulator
Speaker:would rather have money in a savings account, not
Speaker:accruing interest rather than the stock market, because
Speaker:there's risk there. You're laughing. What's coming up.
Speaker:Lt has charged. Yeah. Because what if you lose it all?
Speaker:The accumulators also really hesitant to spend any money on
Speaker:themselves. Yes. Which, paired
Speaker:with the nurturer, creates this really fucked up dynamic
Speaker:where you're allowed to spend money on other people, but you're not allowed to spend
Speaker:money on yourself. And if you do spend money on yourself, like, you have to
Speaker:be the cheapest motherfucker possible about it. Like, the accumulator
Speaker:is really well known for seeing things as luxury that other
Speaker:people see. Like, it's not a big deal. So, you know,
Speaker:like, the difference between tissues. Like, you have tissues that are just like, plain
Speaker:tissues, and then you have the ones that are infused with lotion. They don't irritate
Speaker:your nose. The accumulator would be like, that's $0.50 more.
Speaker:Can't spend that. I gotta get the shitty ones. Gotta get the ones that completely
Speaker:destroy my face and make my nostrils, like, bleed, right?
Speaker:Oh, my God. Yes. Does this hurt? There's an
Speaker:accumulator that I know who, when I brought this up, she's like, I never
Speaker:buy coffee out. I feel so guilty spending $3 on a cup of
Speaker:coffee when I can get it at home for, like, $0.10. Cause she's worked out
Speaker:the math on it. Here's the big thing for accumulators
Speaker:is you, like, invest in
Speaker:things, and it could be that cup of coffee out. You actually open
Speaker:yourself up to opportunities, right? Because let's play this out. You go home, you
Speaker:make coffee. Are you talking to anyone in your kitchen? Like, is there
Speaker:anyone new coming into your life? Are they just walking into your house and be
Speaker:like, oh, you have coffee on. Can I have a cup? Versus sitting down at
Speaker:a cafe and having a cup of coffee and kind of like, you people
Speaker:watching, and maybe someone sits down at the next table and you strike up a
Speaker:conversation with them. Oh, I have a friend who's always wanted to do a podcast.
Speaker:Maybe I should introduce them to you. And this goes into spending time
Speaker:doing fun things. You know, the accumulator when you start training
Speaker:yourself to, like, invest in those little moments, invest in the things that
Speaker:you just want. You actually open yourself up to opportunities coming
Speaker:your way that you can never plan on. Right, right. But you can't do it
Speaker:unless you go and make that choice. They will never come if
Speaker:you're just sitting in your kitchen. Because, I mean, if someone came into your kitchen
Speaker:and was like, hey, I want you to start a podcast, you probably call the
Speaker:police, it wouldn't work out, you know, I don't know how. Much
Speaker:you willing to give? I take
Speaker:your point. Absolutely. Yeah. 100%.
Speaker:Yeah. Okay. What's coming up for you around this?
Speaker:A massive amount of shame. Yeah. What's the
Speaker:shame? Around being super tight? And this comes from my
Speaker:dad, because my dad, like, the advice I was giving my dad on Saturday
Speaker:night, I was saying to him, you need to enjoy your money. You probably got
Speaker:five good years left of driving. For one thing, you've got the
Speaker:money. We know you've got the money. You're saving it for a rainy day,
Speaker:which is basically saving it for me. Don't. And it
Speaker:comes from my dad's mentality that if I spend money on myself,
Speaker:the business is going to need it all of a sudden. Like, you know, like
Speaker:cyber hack or something. Which is ironic cause I'm probably wishing it
Speaker:myself to it now, to be honest. Yeah. You know, it also comes from trauma,
Speaker:and trauma can be generational, and it actually does get passed down in
Speaker:DNA. So, like, I know nothing about your dad except for what you've shared with
Speaker:me. There might have been a moment where all their money was taken
Speaker:from them. Okay, so I can tell you exactly what this is. His dad was
Speaker:an alcoholic and he was actually a restaurant owner in London.
Speaker:Being a chef, even, I mean, it's still pretty stressful now, but back then, it
Speaker:was ridiculous. He would get super stressed Friday night. He'd get his
Speaker:money and he'd just like, literally go to the pub, drink it all, come
Speaker:home, be abusive to his mom and him. Not
Speaker:physically, but just like, verbally. Oh. I mean, it's abuse
Speaker:even if he weren't doing anything, because the parent is unpredictable and you don't
Speaker:know if you're safe. The parent doesn't have to do really anything when they're an
Speaker:alcoholic for it to be abusive to the child. Right. You know, it's just like,
Speaker:it's instability. You don't know, like, how to predict this adult that you're supposed to
Speaker:be able to predict for your own safety. So that absolutely
Speaker:had an impact on his DNA, which got passed down to you. When
Speaker:trauma like that happens, especially early on, it actually alters your DNA.
Speaker:It alters the chemical components of how your DNA is passed on.
Speaker:So there are two ways to respond to this. And so, like, the shame you
Speaker:feel about being this way. Like, you can't feel shame. Like, there was. You had
Speaker:no choice in this. This is basically like, are you a PC or a Mac?
Speaker:A Mac can't help itself but be a Mac. You know? A PC can't help
Speaker:itself but be a PC. It's not like they can be like, oh, man. Like,
Speaker:I have shame. I should be operating like, the other one. This is your operating
Speaker:system, and it's his operating system too. But there are two ways
Speaker:that. Or, I mean, there are many ways, but here are two examples of how
Speaker:someone could respond to that kind of abuse. And that kind of childhood is
Speaker:a save everything. Because what if someone tries to come and take it?
Speaker:And I don't want to risk, like, if I don't have enough to, like, cover
Speaker:myself the other way, that's more of the maverick hello way of
Speaker:doing it is money's not safe with me, so as soon as I get it,
Speaker:I have to get rid of it so no one can take it from me.
Speaker:So knowing that, like, this is. This is, like,
Speaker:how you were raised, but also now. Now you're aware of it,
Speaker:you get to start making some choices that are different. Also,
Speaker:the advice you gave your dad is very much romantic, and we'll get
Speaker:to that. Okay.
Speaker:The accumulator romantic dynamic is actually really interesting because the
Speaker:accumulator will look at their bank account and be like, oh, my God, I have
Speaker:so much money. If I wanted to go to a four star resort for a
Speaker:whole week and have everything done and, like, do the spa
Speaker:one day and go jet ski another day and all this stuff, like, I'd have
Speaker:enough money for that. And, like, that just gives me so much joy, right? The
Speaker:romantic on the other side is like, I want to go to the fucking
Speaker:spa. Like, let's go. That's where I get my joy, is by going and doing
Speaker:the thing and actually enjoying life. Right? So the fact
Speaker:that you have both, there's gonna be constantly this tension between the two
Speaker:of them. Of, no, no, I have enough money. That's good enough. I have enough
Speaker:money to do it if I want to. That's good enough. And the romantic. No,
Speaker:but I just. I really want to go. Can we please go? But the
Speaker:romantic is, like, how I like to describe. The romantic is, like, if the
Speaker:romantic has a craving for a croissant, they're not just gonna
Speaker:go to the grocery store and get a croissant from the bakery department, right?
Speaker:They're going to think of like, hey, what's my favorite bakery that has the best
Speaker:croissant? And they're like, oh, cool. It's that place that's, like, 25 minutes
Speaker:away. And the croissants are, like, stupidly expensive, you
Speaker:know, like. Like, ridiculous. Way more expensive. But you know what? Like, if I want
Speaker:a croissant, I'm not going to settle. Like, I'm not going to be happy with
Speaker:anything else. Like, I have to go and have this croissant over here, right? There's,
Speaker:like, this quality. And your accumulator is probably freaking the fuck out because you're spending
Speaker:the time and you're spending the money, and your nurturer's like, oh, but you could
Speaker:be doing all these other things for other people in that time and with that
Speaker:money. Right? But your romantic's like, no, but I just really want it. Like, it
Speaker:just. It'll make me so happy. So the romantic. The romantic
Speaker:is actually really good at bringing money in, but they don't like
Speaker:thinking about money. Like, the idea of thinking about their money gives them so much
Speaker:anxiety because it's like, they don't want to deal with it. They just want
Speaker:to, like, enjoy what money can bring them. Like, your romantic was
Speaker:giving your dad advice the other night. Like, it was kind of your nurturer as
Speaker:well, but. And like, that nurturer, like response to, oh,
Speaker:well, I want to be able to buy you the car. Like, that's a nurturer
Speaker:response. But, like, the advice you're giving him was full on romantic.
Speaker:Now, his accumulator, I don't know what his other archetypes are, but it's very clear
Speaker:he's an accumulator as well. He's not going to take that advice. But it's
Speaker:also like, he takes joy from knowing he has that money and it
Speaker:can grow, or it can just sit there and be like, this safety
Speaker:egg. Yep. When your romantic's not in power, though, you'll tend to
Speaker:spend money on the same stuff. But it comes from a, well, I deserve this.
Speaker:Like, I worked really hard, or, you know, people just don't appreciate
Speaker:me, so I'm going to appreciate myself. You know, I'm not. And mixed with
Speaker:the resentment that can come up in the nurturer relationships where you're giving
Speaker:and giving and not getting the same amount back. Right. Because it
Speaker:comes from a place of, like, I don't feel appreciated. I don't feel celebrated by
Speaker:other people. Okay. I have to do it for myself. Fascinating. The romantic
Speaker:will spend money on things that they genuinely enjoy, you know, versus the
Speaker:celebrity, which is my third, will spend money on things that look good,
Speaker:you know, that, like, feel like, you know, all the trimmings of someone who would
Speaker:be successful. Right. Doesn't really care about how they look. If
Speaker:you're wearing fleece lined sweatpants, like, if they just feel so good, like
Speaker:you're gonna wear them, you don't care, they look stupid. All these
Speaker:things build up to you being set up to provide a
Speaker:really incredible service to your clients. Right. Because the nurturer wants you to make
Speaker:sure that you're giving a lot to your clients. And the romantic is always going
Speaker:to set up a really thoughtful experience. So the fact
Speaker:that you keep Zencastr just for me because I need the visual
Speaker:feedback, that's a romantic move, that is, because, like,
Speaker:you understand that the experience matters. You
Speaker:know, it's. Oh, no, the experience matters. So, like, if you were ever to do
Speaker:a retreat. Romantics are really good at curating those kinds
Speaker:of experiences because they know what they would like. They know what would make them
Speaker:feel good. You know, the fact that you're on about blue yetis and, like, get
Speaker:really persnickety about the types of microphones you have, your people
Speaker:have, and the quality of the podcasts that you produce. Like, that's a
Speaker:romantic, because you know the experience of listening and you know
Speaker:the difference it makes. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. So
Speaker:you have some really incredible strengths here, and also, like, there are some
Speaker:challenges that we're just going to have to work through. All right, I'm up for
Speaker:the challenge.
Speaker:Okay, so here's your homework. I want you to go, and I want you to
Speaker:find five other examples of how you
Speaker:make choices or, like, conundrums you find yourself in
Speaker:and start pointing to, like, here's what my nurturer has to
Speaker:say, and here's what my accumulator has to say. And here's what my romantic has
Speaker:to say. Right. Because the more you, like, see how you're
Speaker:behaving in your real life and identifying how each one of them is kind
Speaker:of showing up, the more aware you'll be able to be in the future.
Speaker:Okay, that's your homework for right now. If you're ready
Speaker:to stop being a weenie and actually run a business that makes money then
Speaker:go ahead and book a generate income strategy call with me by
Speaker:going to weeniecast.com
Speaker:strategycall. On this call, we will talk about your
Speaker:goals, your dreams. Dreams and your frustrations in getting
Speaker:there. And if it's a fit for both of us, then we can talk about
Speaker:different ways to work together.
